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	<title>Comments on: Yahoo selling Kelkoo (or divesting as they call it)</title>
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		<title>By: Yahoo sells Kelkoo to Jamplant &#124; Crowdstorm (the blog)</title>
		<link>http://blog.crowdstorm.co.uk/yahoo-selling-kelkoo-or-divesting-as-they-call-it/282/comment-page-1#comment-15715</link>
		<dc:creator>Yahoo sells Kelkoo to Jamplant &#124; Crowdstorm (the blog)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 15:27:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] UPDATE: Mike Arrington has a good post with more information and the actual update email from Kelkoo MD Glen Drury to the teamPierre Chappaz also announced this on his Kelblog (I ran it through google translator)Profile information on the new mysterious JamplantIt&#8217;s also worth looking at my previous post on this topic and Kelkoo&#8217;s challenges which are part of the reason for them bein... [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] UPDATE: Mike Arrington has a good post with more information and the actual update email from Kelkoo MD Glen Drury to the teamPierre Chappaz also announced this on his Kelblog (I ran it through google translator)Profile information on the new mysterious JamplantIt&#8217;s also worth looking at my previous post on this topic and Kelkoo&#8217;s challenges which are part of the reason for them bein&#8230; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: nicolas leroy &#187; Bad press for price comparison sites</title>
		<link>http://blog.crowdstorm.co.uk/yahoo-selling-kelkoo-or-divesting-as-they-call-it/282/comment-page-1#comment-15480</link>
		<dc:creator>nicolas leroy &#187; Bad press for price comparison sites</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 12:44:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] has been looking to sell Kelkoo, which operates in 10 European countries, since October last year (here are some good reasons why). Elsewhere, Pricerunner, launched in Sweden in 1999 and bought by ValueClick for £16m, seems to [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] has been looking to sell Kelkoo, which operates in 10 European countries, since October last year (here are some good reasons why). Elsewhere, Pricerunner, launched in Sweden in 1999 and bought by ValueClick for £16m, seems to [...]</p>
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		<title>By: TechCrunch UK &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Price comparison sites are going, going, gone&#8230;</title>
		<link>http://blog.crowdstorm.co.uk/yahoo-selling-kelkoo-or-divesting-as-they-call-it/282/comment-page-1#comment-15478</link>
		<dc:creator>TechCrunch UK &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Price comparison sites are going, going, gone&#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 01:44:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] has been looking to sell Kelkoo, which operates in 10 European countries, since October last year (here are some good reasons why). Elsewhere, Pricerunner, launched in Sweden in 1999 and bought by ValueClick for £16m, seems to [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] has been looking to sell Kelkoo, which operates in 10 European countries, since October last year (here are some good reasons why). Elsewhere, Pricerunner, launched in Sweden in 1999 and bought by ValueClick for £16m, seems to [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Startspin.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; What is Yahoo doing with Kelkoo?</title>
		<link>http://blog.crowdstorm.co.uk/yahoo-selling-kelkoo-or-divesting-as-they-call-it/282/comment-page-1#comment-14689</link>
		<dc:creator>Startspin.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; What is Yahoo doing with Kelkoo?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 22:57:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Philip Wilkinson: Yahoo selling Kelkoo (or divesting as they call it) [...]</description>
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		<title>By: philip.wilkinson</title>
		<link>http://blog.crowdstorm.co.uk/yahoo-selling-kelkoo-or-divesting-as-they-call-it/282/comment-page-1#comment-14659</link>
		<dc:creator>philip.wilkinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 15:01:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also Alarm Clock Euro talks about it and where some of the founders (inc. me and Crowdstorm) are now..
http://www.thealarmclock.com/euro/archives/2007/10/kelkoo_rumor_and_the_1.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also Alarm Clock Euro talks about it and where some of the founders (inc. me and Crowdstorm) are now..<br />
<a href="http://www.thealarmclock.com/euro/archives/2007/10/kelkoo_rumor_and_the_1.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.thealarmclock.com/euro/archives/2007/10/kelkoo_rumor_and_the_1.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: philip.wilkinson</title>
		<link>http://blog.crowdstorm.co.uk/yahoo-selling-kelkoo-or-divesting-as-they-call-it/282/comment-page-1#comment-14658</link>
		<dc:creator>philip.wilkinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 14:56:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scott Wingo from Channel Advisor has done a nice summary article on this topic:
http://www.typepad.com/t/trackback/1134650/22301720</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott Wingo from Channel Advisor has done a nice summary article on this topic:<br />
<a href="http://www.typepad.com/t/trackback/1134650/22301720" rel="nofollow">http://www.typepad.com/t/trackback/1134650/22301720</a></p>
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		<title>By: Agency guy</title>
		<link>http://blog.crowdstorm.co.uk/yahoo-selling-kelkoo-or-divesting-as-they-call-it/282/comment-page-1#comment-14584</link>
		<dc:creator>Agency guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2007 15:23:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve worked closely with many of the price comp engines in the UK for seven years. Kelkoo got a massive lead and then flunked it - because of their technology. They had real problems sorting and categorising data and shoppig.com notably outstripped them (they have since in turn been eclipsed by PriceGrabber&#039;s superior technology).

Kelkoo - right from the start - was perceived as a low rent partner. But you are right Philip in that they forogt effective R&amp;D. because the portals and media oweners like to work with effective products, and there ain&#039;t no traffic quite like cost-of-sale traffic.

btw - after your comments, Crowdstorm had better be good, rather than just another aggregator/adder.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve worked closely with many of the price comp engines in the UK for seven years. Kelkoo got a massive lead and then flunked it &#8211; because of their technology. They had real problems sorting and categorising data and shoppig.com notably outstripped them (they have since in turn been eclipsed by PriceGrabber&#8217;s superior technology).</p>
<p>Kelkoo &#8211; right from the start &#8211; was perceived as a low rent partner. But you are right Philip in that they forogt effective R&amp;D. because the portals and media oweners like to work with effective products, and there ain&#8217;t no traffic quite like cost-of-sale traffic.</p>
<p>btw &#8211; after your comments, Crowdstorm had better be good, rather than just another aggregator/adder.</p>
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		<title>By: Crowdstorm (blog) &#187; Social Price Comparison</title>
		<link>http://blog.crowdstorm.co.uk/yahoo-selling-kelkoo-or-divesting-as-they-call-it/282/comment-page-1#comment-14512</link>
		<dc:creator>Crowdstorm (blog) &#187; Social Price Comparison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 21:46:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] A second point is that a few people use multiple price comparison engines and sites to make sure they really are getting the best price, and this was mentioned by Simon Willison in a previous post on Kelkoo and Yahoo. So, we&#8217;ve put some tabs down the left hand side in which you can flick between the results for places like Amazon, Shopping.com, and Kelkoo (with more to come). [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] A second point is that a few people use multiple price comparison engines and sites to make sure they really are getting the best price, and this was mentioned by Simon Willison in a previous post on Kelkoo and Yahoo. So, we&#8217;ve put some tabs down the left hand side in which you can flick between the results for places like Amazon, Shopping.com, and Kelkoo (with more to come). [...]</p>
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		<title>By: philip.wilkinson</title>
		<link>http://blog.crowdstorm.co.uk/yahoo-selling-kelkoo-or-divesting-as-they-call-it/282/comment-page-1#comment-14504</link>
		<dc:creator>philip.wilkinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 20:41:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Simon - very good point.  One of the things I pushed through in the early days was to make sure we always at least showed the brand with the cheapest price even if the others were paying - as that&#039;s one of the main reasons people use price comparison.   I&#039;m actually going to do a post on this now as you&#039;ve inspired me :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Simon &#8211; very good point.  One of the things I pushed through in the early days was to make sure we always at least showed the brand with the cheapest price even if the others were paying &#8211; as that&#8217;s one of the main reasons people use price comparison.   I&#8217;m actually going to do a post on this now as you&#8217;ve inspired me <img src='http://blog.crowdstorm.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Simon Willison</title>
		<link>http://blog.crowdstorm.co.uk/yahoo-selling-kelkoo-or-divesting-as-they-call-it/282/comment-page-1#comment-14489</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon Willison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 18:28:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem I have always had with Kelkoo as a potential user is that I don&#039;t trust the site to give me non-biased price comparisons - which for me is the most important criteria. I&#039;m aware that the site makes its money from referral and click-through fees, which leads me to believe that it won&#039;t necessarily send me to the merchant offering the lowest price. Kelkoo would have to reassure me that this wasn&#039;t the case in order for me to trust it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem I have always had with Kelkoo as a potential user is that I don&#8217;t trust the site to give me non-biased price comparisons &#8211; which for me is the most important criteria. I&#8217;m aware that the site makes its money from referral and click-through fees, which leads me to believe that it won&#8217;t necessarily send me to the merchant offering the lowest price. Kelkoo would have to reassure me that this wasn&#8217;t the case in order for me to trust it.</p>
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		<title>By: TechCrunch UK &#187; Blog Archive &#187; News In Brief, or &#8216;The Dredge&#8217; 8/10/07</title>
		<link>http://blog.crowdstorm.co.uk/yahoo-selling-kelkoo-or-divesting-as-they-call-it/282/comment-page-1#comment-14462</link>
		<dc:creator>TechCrunch UK &#187; Blog Archive &#187; News In Brief, or &#8216;The Dredge&#8217; 8/10/07</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 13:55:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] • From the pen of the UK&#8217;s Crowdstorm CEO Phil Wilkinson comes analysis of the Yahoo sale of Kelkoo. As a former European Kelkoo UK chieftain, Phil was once intimately acquainted with Kelkoo, so his post is interesting. Namely, he charges Yahoo! with sucking the innovation life out of Kelkoo: &#8220;The friends I know who are still there have kind of been indoctrinated and speak the corporate lingo fluently! Bottom line - innovation has given way to trying to satisfy headcount and strict revenue goals.&#8221; He also says Yahoo broke up the best teams, losing its lead in SEO and not keeping pace with Google, Oh and add to that list, missing out on the financial comparison marketplace which MoneySupermarket capitalised on. Let&#8217;s hope Phil&#8217;s friends keep talking to him, despite being turned into corporate drones, poor things. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] • From the pen of the UK&#8217;s Crowdstorm CEO Phil Wilkinson comes analysis of the Yahoo sale of Kelkoo. As a former European Kelkoo UK chieftain, Phil was once intimately acquainted with Kelkoo, so his post is interesting. Namely, he charges Yahoo! with sucking the innovation life out of Kelkoo: &#8220;The friends I know who are still there have kind of been indoctrinated and speak the corporate lingo fluently! Bottom line &#8211; innovation has given way to trying to satisfy headcount and strict revenue goals.&#8221; He also says Yahoo broke up the best teams, losing its lead in SEO and not keeping pace with Google, Oh and add to that list, missing out on the financial comparison marketplace which MoneySupermarket capitalised on. Let&#8217;s hope Phil&#8217;s friends keep talking to him, despite being turned into corporate drones, poor things. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: philip.wilkinson</title>
		<link>http://blog.crowdstorm.co.uk/yahoo-selling-kelkoo-or-divesting-as-they-call-it/282/comment-page-1#comment-14035</link>
		<dc:creator>philip.wilkinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 22:33:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave - how can you say &quot;Adwords / adsense&quot; was not an earth shattering enhancement?!   It not only made a monster mountain of cash for them but fundamentally enabled many more start-ups and publishers to make revenue for their work and innovate beyond belief.

Let&#039;s be clear - definitely agree there is a balance to be had between constant innovation and business revenue - but lose the momentum in either case and you&#039;re just another &quot;have-been&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave &#8211; how can you say &#8220;Adwords / adsense&#8221; was not an earth shattering enhancement?!   It not only made a monster mountain of cash for them but fundamentally enabled many more start-ups and publishers to make revenue for their work and innovate beyond belief.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s be clear &#8211; definitely agree there is a balance to be had between constant innovation and business revenue &#8211; but lose the momentum in either case and you&#8217;re just another &#8220;have-been&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: dan_the_man</title>
		<link>http://blog.crowdstorm.co.uk/yahoo-selling-kelkoo-or-divesting-as-they-call-it/282/comment-page-1#comment-14021</link>
		<dc:creator>dan_the_man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 19:45:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kelkoo sucks big time. It&#039;s beyond usable and never shows the best price. I&#039;m 100% with you Philip. They completely took their eye off the ball.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kelkoo sucks big time. It&#8217;s beyond usable and never shows the best price. I&#8217;m 100% with you Philip. They completely took their eye off the ball.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 16:42:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe true, but enhancing and innovating are intrinsically different things, and I take a much narrower view of what constitutes innovation.

I don&#039;t know too much about what Kelkoo have been doing, but it looks like an aggregator to me. Aggregating content itself was an innovation, improving the way it works is enhancing your product.  Napster was an innovation, other P2P services are enhancements of that concept.

I would disagree that Google are innovating every day - they didn&#039;t invent web search, they&#039;ve enhanced the way it works. AdWords are arguably an innovation, but not earthshattering - they were a great enhancement to web search on which Google relies for its revenue. So, Google continually enhances its product to keep it cutting-edge, but I wouldn&#039;t say they&#039;re consistent innovators.

So, what we are saying is that Kelkoo should have enhanced their product, to increase functionality, rather than get too comfortable? Agree there. History is littered with the ghosts of companies who have fallen into the trap of being comfortable with an initially great product for too long (Commodore, anyone?).

As to who would buy it - who can tell? I would value it as I would any other business, based on its revenues and profits. Anything else is speculative (look at Skype...).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe true, but enhancing and innovating are intrinsically different things, and I take a much narrower view of what constitutes innovation.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know too much about what Kelkoo have been doing, but it looks like an aggregator to me. Aggregating content itself was an innovation, improving the way it works is enhancing your product.  Napster was an innovation, other P2P services are enhancements of that concept.</p>
<p>I would disagree that Google are innovating every day &#8211; they didn&#8217;t invent web search, they&#8217;ve enhanced the way it works. AdWords are arguably an innovation, but not earthshattering &#8211; they were a great enhancement to web search on which Google relies for its revenue. So, Google continually enhances its product to keep it cutting-edge, but I wouldn&#8217;t say they&#8217;re consistent innovators.</p>
<p>So, what we are saying is that Kelkoo should have enhanced their product, to increase functionality, rather than get too comfortable? Agree there. History is littered with the ghosts of companies who have fallen into the trap of being comfortable with an initially great product for too long (Commodore, anyone?).</p>
<p>As to who would buy it &#8211; who can tell? I would value it as I would any other business, based on its revenues and profits. Anything else is speculative (look at Skype&#8230;).</p>
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		<title>By: philip.wilkinson</title>
		<link>http://blog.crowdstorm.co.uk/yahoo-selling-kelkoo-or-divesting-as-they-call-it/282/comment-page-1#comment-13990</link>
		<dc:creator>philip.wilkinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 10:31:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave - I think you&#039;ve missed the point a bit here and I&#039;m not saying that no business should focus on revenue - far from it!  The point is that the internet business moves very  rapidly and if you don&#039;t keep enhancing and innovating your product then how can you expect to keep competing?

To give you a solid example, price comparison was actually a pretty advanced technology in 1998 and very unique.   Now, it is much easier to do and lots of sites have API&#039;s (shopping.com) so you can launch your own.  Thus, once it becomes a commodity - you need to think how else you keep differentiating yourself.   

Kelkoo has sat on its arse for the last few years which is pretty annoying - for the very reason that they were making good money, had dominant market share, and were comfortable.   Google are not even doing this - but innovating every day AND making money.

Ciaron - who would buy it?   Following on from the above post - why would you need to?  (I&#039;d buy the team and the merchant relations and that&#039;s it to be honest).

It&#039;s time to set the Kelkoo team free - let them come and join a new wave of ecommerce and be alive again!!!!!   Crowdstorm anyone?  muhaaaahhhaa</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave &#8211; I think you&#8217;ve missed the point a bit here and I&#8217;m not saying that no business should focus on revenue &#8211; far from it!  The point is that the internet business moves very  rapidly and if you don&#8217;t keep enhancing and innovating your product then how can you expect to keep competing?</p>
<p>To give you a solid example, price comparison was actually a pretty advanced technology in 1998 and very unique.   Now, it is much easier to do and lots of sites have API&#8217;s (shopping.com) so you can launch your own.  Thus, once it becomes a commodity &#8211; you need to think how else you keep differentiating yourself.   </p>
<p>Kelkoo has sat on its arse for the last few years which is pretty annoying &#8211; for the very reason that they were making good money, had dominant market share, and were comfortable.   Google are not even doing this &#8211; but innovating every day AND making money.</p>
<p>Ciaron &#8211; who would buy it?   Following on from the above post &#8211; why would you need to?  (I&#8217;d buy the team and the merchant relations and that&#8217;s it to be honest).</p>
<p>It&#8217;s time to set the Kelkoo team free &#8211; let them come and join a new wave of ecommerce and be alive again!!!!!   Crowdstorm anyone?  muhaaaahhhaa</p>
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